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Focus on - Footwear Feb 10, 2019 3:20:15 GMT

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A Focus on special to debate argue and chat about action man footwear.

Mostly straight forward common sense but there are some myths and gray areas.

(to be edited later)

tall black:
tall brown:
short black: cut offs. flat bottom, bow top, figure 8,
short brown:
short Tan:
short silver: Early crash crew, Astronaut.
lace ups: brown. black and later BP
Jack boots:
thigh length jack boots:
dress shoes: black, brown.

and others:

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Focus on - Footwear Feb 10, 2019 3:43:35 GMT

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To start off
I believe the tall black boots were only issued with the very early figures. due to cost of black plastic the tops were cut off and recycled.
I would be interest to hear if anyone had a early boxed sailor with tall black boots. The GIJoe sailor had the tall black boots, but i have been told that they were also cut short circa 67?.

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Starting at the beginning with the first issue GI Joe high brown boot made of rubber
Circa 1964 from very early triple TM boxed figure.

Note: Hong Kong on back of heels

Early boot instruction sheet .

Early rubber boots are prone to shrinkage and hardening .. So need to be warmed up to make them pliable enough to fit onto foot ( hot water or hairdryer can be used)

colin161 Life Guard Posts: 583 Favourite era: Flock hair, gripping hands Favourite set: Anything German	Focus on - Footwear Feb 10, 2019 20:25:21 GMT daz28, spenner10, and 3 more like this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by colin161 on Feb 10, 2019 20:25:21 GMT I really like the section on variations in the DePriest The Collectable Gi Joe. It would be good if we could put together a comprehensive survey of boots between us?

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Feb 10, 2019 20:25:21 GMT colin161 said:

I really like the section on variations in the DePriest The Collectable Gi Joe. It would be good if we could put together a comprehensive survey of boots between us?

The jackboot from GI Joe 'Action Soldier Of The World' apart from the rimmed sole: it is much bigger in all directions !

note much taller (GI Joe boot l/h side. Our Standard jackboot r/h)

longer on the sole

also a more pronounced angle on the welt

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Post by dixonmurray on Feb 12, 2019 18:11:21 GMT

My next-door neighbour (Paul) had a boxed sailor from 1968 or 1969 that had the long black boots. I remember it very clearly because he was the person who got me into Action Man. I wanted a figure exactly like his, so even though the Realistic Hair was then available, I insisted on getting a First-Issue Sailor as my first figure.
I was slightly disappointed because he had (has) a soft dark-brown head rather than the hard red-brown, like Paul's one.
And he also had the short (probably cut off) boots rather than the full length.
Cheers,
Andy

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Feb 13, 2019 1:24:15 GMT daz28 said:

Feb 12, 2019 18:11:21 GMT dixonmurray said:

My next-door neighbour (Paul) had a boxed sailor from 1968 or 1969

Maybe it could have been old stock ?.

Hi Daz,
Yes it could have been. I'm guessing on the age. I remember it being in very good condition, but Paul used to look after his toys! I also remember that the boots were very difficult to take off, but were better than the short (cut off) ones which used to keep falling off.! I am talking about the original type with the ridged sole - the later one's with the flat sole and the bow at the top, appeared with the 3rd-Issue Soldier (I think) and were much better for playing with.
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First issue high brown boots : Action Man 1966

Crude executed moulding detail

Wide ridge on sole also badly done (no numbers on sole )

The knot and bows on laces also very indistintive and different left and right (boot)

observation Taken from Three early boxed 1966 figures. All identical except one pair of boots had a shiny finish

Later edit .....
another pair of boots showing same as above !

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Feb 10, 2019 3:43:35 GMT daz28 said:

To start off
I believe the tall black boots were only issued with the very early figures. due to cost of black plastic the tops were cut off and recycled.
I would be interest to hear if anyone had a early boxed sailor with tall black boots. The GIJoe sailor had the tall black boots, but i have been told that they were also cut short circa 67?.

i believe these to be the the early cut offs

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The high boot with ridge and numbers on sole

Number 1 (reversed) is the right boot
Number 2.(reversed) is the left boot

NOTE : the high boots represents 10 lace holes (high) although one set of holes are hidden by bow and one set are partly visible above the bow

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Post by vonsturm on Mar 18, 2021 19:53:30 GMT

I’ve got these very nice white boots . Can’t find anything on the forum about them in white
but the same boots in black daz says are knock off

They must have come originally on a card as attached cotton still visible
Any more info welcome

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Dec 1, 2021 11:54:54 GMT armajorbill said:

Look correct to me Tom but that's no guarantee in this hobby!

I had no idea whatever , never had anything from these sets … I bought them as genuine ! Just the holes in the bottom throw me off

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Dec 1, 2021 17:51:40 GMT mraction said:

They look fine to me too, other than you need the fragile spurs and straps for them.

Thank you that’s good to know for sure👍

Well done Mike you just jogged my memory.. I may have a spare 40s set of spurs that I got a few years ago to complete a figure but they were the wrong type of spurs. Note to self. “Get looking” This may take some time

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Dec 1, 2021 19:32:20 GMT vonsturm said:

Dec 1, 2021 17:51:40 GMT mraction said:

They look fine to me too, other than you need the fragile spurs and straps for them.

Thank you that’s good to know for sure👍

Well done Mike you just jogged my memory.. I may have a spare 40s set of spurs that I got a few years ago to complete a figure but they were the wrong type of spurs. Note to self. “Get looking” This may take some time

Just found the Spurs while looking for something else . There is an original pair for sale at the moment on eBay (£38) and you can see there should be gold tape to go underneath the boots ! I’ve got some gold elastic hopefully that will look alright

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Dec 4, 2021 22:35:02 GMT daz28 said:

Dec 4, 2021 16:23:35 GMT vonsturm said:

There is an original pair for sale at the moment on eBay (£38)

They look like 40th to me.

Oh! Gosh ..someone is going to be disappointed at sometime down the line : If they buy them then 😖

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I've looked at the "original" pair on ebay (£38) as well as I need some for my lifeguards figure as they ones I have are repaired and one is missing the "gold" tie underneath.

I did think they may be 40th but wasn't sure - I've been offered them for £35 but didn't bite.
I have tried to compare them to my originals as they do look the same - but think I may now pass on them... Think they would have gone by now if original...

I also after some items to finish off my Royal Hussar (sword + Belt, cartouce box and spurs) but these never seem to come up!

Spence

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