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Cloth badges - can anyone help? Jul 29, 2015 21:46:56 GMT

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Post by mraction on Jul 29, 2015 21:46:56 GMT

Does anyone recognise these cloth badges? I've had them since the early 1970s, bought in a local flea market, and turfed them up again recently whilst emptying an old toy cupboard and saved them from the charity shop bag. I've found reproductions similar to the one with a "B" on eBay. Could they be genuine WW2? All I know for sure is that they are at least 40 years old, but I guess there may well have been reproductions around even then.

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dadsarmys71 Moderator Posts: 4,179 Favourite era: Eagle eye (blue pants) Favourite set: THE DAK.s ROYAL MARINE'S Favourite vehicle: . scorpion tank . M/B side car .	Cloth badges - can anyone help? Jul 29, 2015 22:21:47 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by dadsarmys71 on Jul 29, 2015 22:21:47 GMT the top one is a Luftwaffe afrkia corps ..the bottom one is a co pilot of which i dont know .. as for the ages ..i guess they look vintage .. what do you want for the DAK one mike ..
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charmic1 British officer Posts: 5,336	Cloth badges - can anyone help? Jul 29, 2015 22:44:04 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by charmic1 on Jul 29, 2015 22:44:04 GMT would the "B" be for bomber by any chance?

mraction Administrator Posts: 4,788 Favourite era: Painted head	Cloth badges - can anyone help? Jul 29, 2015 22:55:20 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by mraction on Jul 29, 2015 22:55:20 GMT Yes, it's the badge for an RAF bomb aimer, from a bit of Google research.

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Cloth badges - can anyone help? Jul 30, 2015 6:44:24 GMT

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Post by thisbitterpill on Jul 30, 2015 6:44:24 GMT

Google turns up a lot of the LW ones Mike, but they all seem to be more of a white/off white, rather than blue/grey, unless that's just the photo?

Apparently, the originals were made by lots of different manufacturers and quality can be quite varied...Sounds like VAM!

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Cloth badges - can anyone help? Jul 30, 2015 17:39:20 GMT

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Post by mraction on Jul 30, 2015 17:39:20 GMT

The German one is pale blue on a sandy beige background.

I suppose what I really want to know is are they worth anything?

Rummaging around on eBay it looks like these kinds of badges are fairly common, so I guess not. I bought them with my pocket money as a kid all those years ago because they caught my eye at a time when I spent all my time making Airfix kits of WW2 planes!

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charmic1 British officer Posts: 5,336	Cloth badges - can anyone help? Jul 31, 2015 0:28:10 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by charmic1 on Jul 31, 2015 0:28:10 GMT still great to have something like that from your childhood

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Cloth badges - can anyone help? Aug 1, 2015 20:31:39 GMT

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Post by madjack on Aug 1, 2015 20:31:39 GMT

Best thing you can do is join one of the WW2 on line sites and put the badges on you need to show the reverse as well. If you put up a photo of the reverse I will get a friend of mine to look at them. The first link is very likely to give you an answer.

gmic.co.uk/
www.facebook.com/pages/Rutland-Military-History-Society/1505941526286392

madjack Life Guard Posts: 816 Favourite era: Painted head Favourite set: Royal Engineers Favourite vehicle: Landrover - just - then the Motorcycle Combination	Cloth badges - can anyone help? Aug 1, 2015 20:36:11 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by madjack on Aug 1, 2015 20:36:11 GMT The Bomb Aimer wing looks good to me - but I'm not an expert

mraction Administrator Posts: 4,788 Favourite era: Painted head	Cloth badges - can anyone help? Aug 1, 2015 22:35:37 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by mraction on Aug 1, 2015 22:35:37 GMT Many thanks - I'll try and take some decent photos of both sides, but I don't hold out too much hope that they are genuine.

mraction Administrator Posts: 4,788 Favourite era: Painted head	Cloth badges - can anyone help? Aug 5, 2015 19:06:43 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by mraction on Aug 5, 2015 19:06:43 GMT Some better photos of the badges with a coin for scale and true to colour. What do you reckon?

dadsarmys71 Moderator Posts: 4,179 Favourite era: Eagle eye (blue pants) Favourite set: THE DAK.s ROYAL MARINE'S Favourite vehicle: . scorpion tank . M/B side car .	Cloth badges - can anyone help? Aug 5, 2015 19:11:16 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by dadsarmys71 on Aug 5, 2015 19:11:16 GMT id say the coin is real mike LOL.. sorry LOL. they look real ..might be worth few quid now ..
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thisbitterpill Scramble Pilot Posts: 361	Cloth badges - can anyone help? Aug 6, 2015 6:17:10 GMT blueboxier likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by thisbitterpill on Aug 6, 2015 6:17:10 GMT That coin has the Queen's head on both sides!...Definitely fake!
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dadsarmys71 Moderator Posts: 4,179 Favourite era: Eagle eye (blue pants) Favourite set: THE DAK.s ROYAL MARINE'S Favourite vehicle: . scorpion tank . M/B side car .	Cloth badges - can anyone help? Aug 6, 2015 19:22:19 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by dadsarmys71 on Aug 6, 2015 19:22:19 GMT no m8 its twins LOL
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Cloth badges - can anyone help? Aug 6, 2015 21:00:14 GMT

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Post by madjack on Aug 6, 2015 21:00:14 GMT

I have put your badge photos on another site for some feedback for you. I hope to hear back soon......

On the pound coin side you are right to be concerned according to the BBC...

Nearly two million counterfeit £1 coins were returned to the Royal Mint in the last financial year, figures show.
This was more than 23 times higher than the number seized six years earlier, MPs were told. An estimated one in 36 £1 coins in circulation are counterfeit, prompting a campaign by the Royal Mint telling people how to spot fakes. To confirm if your pound coin is a fake or not....

It may not always be easy to spot a counterfeit £1 coin without close inspection. Features of counterfeit coins to look out for are set out below.
• The date and design on the reverse do not match (the reverse design is changed each year).

• The lettering or inscription on the edge of the coin does not correspond to the right year.
• The milled edge is poorly defined and the lettering is uneven in depth, spacing or is poorly formed. The obverse and reverse designs are not as sharp or well defined.
• Where the coin should have been in circulation for some time, the colouring appears more shiny and golden and the coin shows no sign of age.
• The colour of the coin does not match genuine coins.
• The orientation of the obverse and reverse designs is not in line

mraction Administrator Posts: 4,788 Favourite era: Painted head	Cloth badges - can anyone help? Aug 6, 2015 21:04:43 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by mraction on Aug 6, 2015 21:04:43 GMT Aug 6, 2015 21:00:14 GMT madjack said: I have put your badge photos on another site for some feedback for you. I hope to hear back soon...... Many thanks!

madjack Life Guard Posts: 816 Favourite era: Painted head Favourite set: Royal Engineers Favourite vehicle: Landrover - just - then the Motorcycle Combination	Cloth badges - can anyone help? Aug 7, 2015 17:10:16 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by madjack on Aug 7, 2015 17:10:16 GMT Hi had an answer - I'm sorry the Luftwaffe tropical eagle is as I suspected a fake. The pound looks OK though , not sure on the half wing. will let you know if I

mraction Administrator Posts: 4,788 Favourite era: Painted head	Cloth badges - can anyone help? Aug 7, 2015 17:35:18 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by mraction on Aug 7, 2015 17:35:18 GMT Many thanks for checking them out for me. I'm not surprised - they looked too good to be genuine. The only hope was that fakes weren't around yet in the early 1970s!

charmic1 British officer Posts: 5,336	Cloth badges - can anyone help? Aug 7, 2015 23:04:05 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by charmic1 on Aug 7, 2015 23:04:05 GMT id say don't worry about the fake pound coin mike,the politicians have them all!!!!!

madjack Life Guard Posts: 816 Favourite era: Painted head Favourite set: Royal Engineers Favourite vehicle: Landrover - just - then the Motorcycle Combination	Cloth badges - can anyone help? Aug 10, 2015 0:54:40 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by madjack on Aug 10, 2015 0:54:40 GMT They were making fakes immediately after the war - arm shields were faked from the original moulds!!!!

mraction Administrator Posts: 4,788 Favourite era: Painted head	Cloth badges - can anyone help? Aug 10, 2015 11:50:13 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by mraction on Aug 10, 2015 11:50:13 GMT Oh well, I can't say I'm surprised. The badges can go in the bin, but I'll need to think about the £1 coin.

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Cloth badges - can anyone help? Aug 13, 2015 22:09:54 GMT

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Post by madjack on Aug 13, 2015 22:09:54 GMT

Don't bin them - flog as 1970's reproductions on e-bay for the eagle and possible repro for the wing - you can try the pound but i think you won't get any takers unless you sell it cheap

By the way copies are often collectable in their own right

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Cloth badges - can anyone help? Aug 14, 2015 7:35:52 GMT

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Aug 13, 2015 22:09:54 GMT madjack said:

Don't bin them - flog as 1970's reproductions on e-bay for the eagle and possible repro for the wing - you can try the pound but i think you won't get any takers unless you sell it cheap

By the way copies are often collectable in their own right

I don't think I want to start selling repro, but if you would like them, please PM me your address and I'll pop them in the post.

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